Dean Esmay (mail) (www):
Let's hope we never have to do something like that again. Indeed, it is the fact that so many don't understand that if things go wrongly, we might, that scares me most.
8.8.2004 6:06pm
Sean Kinsell (mail) (www):
You mean the sort of people who think that the end of WWII was so masterfully engineered that it would have ended armed conflict forever, if only the US and Israel had made our munitions manufacturers start making coffee makers and irons like Germany? Yeah, they're scary. They study Hiroshima and Nagasaki and get all the wrong lessons. Interestingly, my Japanese friends generally have no problem when I say that, look, I'm glad we're allies now, but back then we were enemies, and I'm glad our grandfathers crushed your grandfathers however they could.
8.8.2004 11:46pm
Dean Esmay (mail) (www):
You of course know far more about the Japanese than I do, but from my background as an American who's studied Japanese martial arts, loves their movies, their anime, their manga, some of their music, much of their food, and a few of their books (especially "A Book of Five Rings") I'll make this haphazard observation: Whatever its shortcomings, the Japanese concept of honor is mostly a healthy thing. Understanding that your enemy has vanquished you but may still be honorable and may even become your equal and your friend--this is a very healthy thing. I understand that of course not all Japanese feel this way, but the friendship that sprang up between Japanese and Americans after the war ended, this has long been treasured by me as a great thing for both peoples, and for the human race. You share that with any of your dangerous yellow slant-eyed friends who think would like to hear it. ;-)
8.9.2004 12:34pm
Sean Kinsell (mail) (www):
Huh. Yeah, I said something similar myself a few months ago. The Japanese don't view honor only as something that other people have to do to them. It is true that they don't reflexively give outsiders the same esteem as insiders; but ultimately, you can reason with them and change their view of you because they see respect as a two-way street. Unlike some Pales...um...people.
8.9.2004 1:27pm
Sparkey (mail) (www):
I've known many Japanese, from the childhood friend, fellow graduate students, co-workers, and mentor. But I've never been apologetic. Once, a co-worker recounted his family members who died during the Great Pacific War, one uncle disappeared in New Guinea, another in China, a third was lost at sea, and an aunt who died in a firebombing raid. Tragic each and every one. I patiently listened to Hoshi's list and after he stopped I quietly told him that I'm d*%n glad it was his uncles and not my dad or my uncles. As a wise man once noted, America can choke on a gnat but swallows tigers whole. He smiled and replied, "I'm glad that America swallowed Japan whole." His explanation being that Japan wasn't chewed in into little pieces and digested.
8.13.2004 10:22am
Sean Kinsell (mail) (www):
Right. I know a good number of Japanese who have explicitly agreed with your friend. Not as in, "Yippee! We lost the war!" but as in, "We wouldn't have done as well for ourselves as victors as you helped us do while reconstructing us."
8.13.2004 12:01pm